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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

    Backhand Topspin ๐ŸŸจJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Backhand Topspin ๐ŸŸจJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Backhand Topspin ๐ŸŸจ
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    #42

    @jdelacueva Shame on you @EUCommission Europe should be internet-sovereign and stop depending exclusively on foreign US big tech shady corporations.

    European citizens that pay taxes in Europe and try to use Europe based alternatives to Apple or Android shouldn't be treated like this. It is a disgrace. Things like this have to change. We need European software running on an European OS, for Europe's sake!

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    • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

      @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

      Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are sayingโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.oh wait I see My error now.

      ๐Ÿ Perivi Yohanesburgo ๐Ÿ :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
      ๐Ÿ Perivi Yohanesburgo ๐Ÿ :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
      ๐Ÿ Perivi Yohanesburgo ๐Ÿ :fedora:
      wrote last edited by
      #43

      @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

      https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
        NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
        Nazo
        wrote last edited by
        #44

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission Does this actually require explicitly Google's own authenticator?

        There are a number of two-factor authenticators that should be completely compatible. (My preferred option being Aegis, but there are others.)

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
          Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
          Rue Mohr
          wrote last edited by
          #45

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission

          software hacking gonna be a major thing!!! and I dont think its all going to be client side!

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
            SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
            SebasFC
            wrote last edited by
            #46

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission hi @pallenberg kรถnntest du dir das Mal angucken?

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              C This user is from outside of this forum
              C This user is from outside of this forum
              Steffen Eichel
              wrote last edited by
              #47

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission At least one EU Agency uses Microsoft services (even for user management and login/security issues) and you have to use either SMS or MS for 2FA, no open standards.

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                pino
                wrote last edited by
                #48

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission What else did you expect from them?

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                  Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                  Fish Id Wardrobe
                  wrote last edited by
                  #49

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission if the 2FA requires one particular app to use, that's suspicious, too. there are plenty of apps that will work with 2FA.

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                    Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                    Matv1
                    wrote last edited by
                    #50

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                    What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                    Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google ๐Ÿ˜„

                    One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      John Faithfull ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ŸงกโœŠ๐ŸปโœŠ๐ŸฟF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #51

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission the right to exist is only available to Google and Apple customers. ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฌ

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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                        Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                        Alex Afouxenidis
                        wrote last edited by
                        #52

                        @jdelacueva Absolutely right. @EUCommission

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                        • Matv1M Matv1

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                          What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                          Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google ๐Ÿ˜„

                          One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

                          https://purl.org/rzr#R This user is from outside of this forum
                          https://purl.org/rzr#R This user is from outside of this forum
                          https://purl.org/rzr#
                          wrote last edited by
                          #53

                          https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

                          Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

                          Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

                          I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

                          Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

                          Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

                          Inputs welcome anyway

                          @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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                          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            Jay
                            wrote last edited by
                            #54

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                            Australian here. Don't even know at what layer my New South Wales State Government app isn't playing nice with GrapheneOS... but it doesn't bloody work mate.
                            I share your anger.

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                            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              Herman  ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹H This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Herman ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹
                              wrote last edited by
                              #55

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ”จ

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                              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                                katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                                katzenberger
                                wrote last edited by
                                #56

                                @jdelacueva

                                Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm currently able to add a passkey as a second factor, under "Manage my Trusted Platforms, Security Keys and Passkeys".

                                That should allow you to use e.g. KeePassDX on Android.

                                @EUCommission

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                                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  ๏ฝ”๏ฝโŸ๏ฝ“๏ฝ”โŸ๏ฝŒT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #57

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission EU should fix thisโ€ฆ & their date format to 2026-02-25 like the ISO 8601 standard.

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                                  • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

                                    @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                    Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are sayingโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.oh wait I see My error now.

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                                    Wolf90000
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                                    @greatlaketrout The EU is in bed with big tech despite them claiming otherwise (You probably know but this is for the people that don't)

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                                    • ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข

                                      @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                                      #59

                                      @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                      I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                                      From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        schrotthaufen
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #60

                                        @EUCommission This is not how to do digital sovereignity. At all. Every mandated and/or taxpayer funded software must run on de-googled Android (LineageOS, GrapheneOS) or postmarketOS if itโ€™s a mobile app, and Linux if itโ€™s a desktop app. (Thatโ€™s in addition to โ€œregularโ€ Android, iOS, Windows, and macOS.)

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Miah Johnson
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #61

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission getting to the point where you need a dedicated Google device for things like this and then your daily use mobile device. Keep the spyware device in a drawer at home..

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