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  • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

    @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

    Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are sayingโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.oh wait I see My error now.

    ๐Ÿ Perivi Yohanesburgo ๐Ÿ :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #43

    @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

    https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
      NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
      Nazo
      wrote last edited by
      #44

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission Does this actually require explicitly Google's own authenticator?

      There are a number of two-factor authenticators that should be completely compatible. (My preferred option being Aegis, but there are others.)

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
        Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
        Rue Mohr
        wrote last edited by
        #45

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission

        software hacking gonna be a major thing!!! and I dont think its all going to be client side!

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
          SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
          SebasFC
          wrote last edited by
          #46

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission hi @pallenberg kรถnntest du dir das Mal angucken?

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            C This user is from outside of this forum
            C This user is from outside of this forum
            Steffen Eichel
            wrote last edited by
            #47

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission At least one EU Agency uses Microsoft services (even for user management and login/security issues) and you have to use either SMS or MS for 2FA, no open standards.

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
              pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
              pino
              wrote last edited by
              #48

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission What else did you expect from them?

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                Fish Id Wardrobe
                wrote last edited by
                #49

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission if the 2FA requires one particular app to use, that's suspicious, too. there are plenty of apps that will work with 2FA.

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                  Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                  Matv1
                  wrote last edited by
                  #50

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                  What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                  Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google ๐Ÿ˜„

                  One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    John Faithfull ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ŸงกโœŠ๐ŸปโœŠ๐ŸฟF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #51

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission the right to exist is only available to Google and Apple customers. ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฌ

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                      Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                      Alex Afouxenidis
                      wrote last edited by
                      #52

                      @jdelacueva Absolutely right. @EUCommission

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                      • Matv1M Matv1

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                        What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                        Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google ๐Ÿ˜„

                        One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

                        https://purl.org/rzr#R This user is from outside of this forum
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                        https://purl.org/rzr#
                        wrote last edited by
                        #53

                        https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

                        Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

                        Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

                        I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

                        Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

                        Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

                        Inputs welcome anyway

                        @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jay
                          wrote last edited by
                          #54

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                          Australian here. Don't even know at what layer my New South Wales State Government app isn't playing nice with GrapheneOS... but it doesn't bloody work mate.
                          I share your anger.

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                          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            Herman  ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹H This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Herman ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹
                            wrote last edited by
                            #55

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ”จ

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                            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                              katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                              katzenberger
                              wrote last edited by
                              #56

                              @jdelacueva

                              Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm currently able to add a passkey as a second factor, under "Manage my Trusted Platforms, Security Keys and Passkeys".

                              That should allow you to use e.g. KeePassDX on Android.

                              @EUCommission

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                              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #57

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission EU should fix thisโ€ฆ & their date format to 2026-02-25 like the ISO 8601 standard.

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                                • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

                                  @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                  Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are sayingโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.oh wait I see My error now.

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                                  Wolf90000
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #58

                                  @greatlaketrout The EU is in bed with big tech despite them claiming otherwise (You probably know but this is for the people that don't)

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                                  • ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข

                                    @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #59

                                    @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                    I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                                    From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

                                      schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      schrotthaufen
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #60

                                      @EUCommission This is not how to do digital sovereignity. At all. Every mandated and/or taxpayer funded software must run on de-googled Android (LineageOS, GrapheneOS) or postmarketOS if itโ€™s a mobile app, and Linux if itโ€™s a desktop app. (Thatโ€™s in addition to โ€œregularโ€ Android, iOS, Windows, and macOS.)

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                                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Miah Johnson
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #61

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission getting to the point where you need a dedicated Google device for things like this and then your daily use mobile device. Keep the spyware device in a drawer at home..

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          Dr0idA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Dr0idA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Dr0id
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #62

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you donโ€™t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. โฌ

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