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  • Mira :neocat_flag_nb:M Mira :neocat_flag_nb:

    @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu is Google Play really the only way to use two-factor authentication there? not even a FIDO token or some other alternative?

    GuacamOlé 🥑G This user is from outside of this forum
    GuacamOlé 🥑G This user is from outside of this forum
    GuacamOlé 🥑
    wrote last edited by
    #31

    @mira @EUCommission @jdelacueva i can even use 2FA in Microsoft Teams without Google vor MS apps.

    Its just lazyness i guess

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      Z This user is from outside of this forum
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      zsapi
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      #32

      @EUCommission
      Hey there EU commission. As a Hungarian citizen I must ask, could we not do this? This is a short sighted and arbitrary limitation that does not add to security but strengthens our dependence on the US.

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        AndréA This user is from outside of this forum
        AndréA This user is from outside of this forum
        André
        wrote last edited by
        #33

        @jdelacueva the @EUCommission needs to mandate opening up mobile Phone manufacturers to third party integrity verification Services (and fund initial european companies to bootstrap them), so security related apps don't need to rely on Google/Apple integrity services

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
          antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
          antoniovr
          wrote last edited by
          #34

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission
          I will try out. So far i can still log in with user password (perhaps it depends on the European portal)

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            Lutin DiscretL This user is from outside of this forum
            Lutin DiscretL This user is from outside of this forum
            Lutin Discret
            wrote last edited by
            #35

            @jdelacueva mandatory for doing what?

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              Tanguy FardetT This user is from outside of this forum
              Tanguy FardetT This user is from outside of this forum
              Tanguy Fardet
              wrote last edited by
              #36

              @jdelacueva yeah... it's not great. I had to buy a YubiKey to get 2FA without Google when accessing @EUCommission portals

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              • antoniovrA antoniovr

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                I will try out. So far i can still log in with user password (perhaps it depends on the European portal)

                antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
                antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
                antoniovr
                wrote last edited by
                #37

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission i thought you could set up a totp but i see the only way is to install that app

                So far i will keep on using just user and password.

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)C This user is from outside of this forum
                  Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)C This user is from outside of this forum
                  Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)
                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  @EUCommission
                  well, we insist in doing apps only for two platforms. There are other OS, really open like Ubuntu Touch that are not under a company.
                  If we don't start controlling the OS, we will have to follow big tech wishes.

                  @jdelacueva

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Leonardo FontenelleL This user is from outside of this forum
                    Leonardo FontenelleL This user is from outside of this forum
                    Leonardo Fontenelle
                    wrote last edited by
                    #39

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission digital sovereignty

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      CharlesC This user is from outside of this forum
                      CharlesC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Charles
                      wrote last edited by
                      #40

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                      I hope BRICs develop better solutions for their citizens.

                      The EU is a sock puppet of the US empire.

                      (Look at what they do, not what they say).

                      https://mastodon.social/@DrALJONES/116105093976196966

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                      • Tanguy FardetT Tanguy Fardet

                        @jdelacueva yeah... it's not great. I had to buy a YubiKey to get 2FA without Google when accessing @EUCommission portals

                        Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
                        Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
                        Henrik Pauli
                        wrote last edited by
                        #41

                        @tfardet @jdelacueva @EUCommission wow I'm absolutely baffled why a bog standard TOTP isn't allowed while some silly four digit PIN is... https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/what-second-factor-can-i-configure-my-account_en

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                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          Backhand Topspin 🟨J This user is from outside of this forum
                          Backhand Topspin 🟨J This user is from outside of this forum
                          Backhand Topspin 🟨
                          wrote last edited by
                          #42

                          @jdelacueva Shame on you @EUCommission Europe should be internet-sovereign and stop depending exclusively on foreign US big tech shady corporations.

                          European citizens that pay taxes in Europe and try to use Europe based alternatives to Apple or Android shouldn't be treated like this. It is a disgrace. Things like this have to change. We need European software running on an European OS, for Europe's sake!

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                          • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

                            @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                            Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

                            🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
                            🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
                            🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:
                            wrote last edited by
                            #43

                            @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

                            https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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                            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
                              NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Nazo
                              wrote last edited by
                              #44

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission Does this actually require explicitly Google's own authenticator?

                              There are a number of two-factor authenticators that should be completely compatible. (My preferred option being Aegis, but there are others.)

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                              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Rue Mohr
                                wrote last edited by
                                #45

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                software hacking gonna be a major thing!!! and I dont think its all going to be client side!

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                                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  SebasFC
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #46

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission hi @pallenberg könntest du dir das Mal angucken?

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                                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

                                    C This user is from outside of this forum
                                    C This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Steffen Eichel
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #47

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission At least one EU Agency uses Microsoft services (even for user management and login/security issues) and you have to use either SMS or MS for 2FA, no open standards.

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                                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

                                      pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                                      pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                                      pino
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #48

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission What else did you expect from them?

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                                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Fish Id Wardrobe
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #49

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission if the 2FA requires one particular app to use, that's suspicious, too. there are plenty of apps that will work with 2FA.

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Matv1
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #50

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                          What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                                          Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google 😄

                                          One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

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