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  3. If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

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  • Dawn AhukannaD Dawn Ahukanna

    @evan
    It should be visible to the original set as Alice shared the post with her followers, not followers of followers (light blue segment of set diagram). Any of Bob’s followers that also follow Alice will see the post and replies anyway. See comments on set diagram and post about the set theory maths/model - https://mastodon.social/@dahukanna/116030140984675453

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    #211

    @dahukanna
    Oh... I need to change my answer. 😅
    Other: the dark blue-grey.
    @evan

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    • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

      If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

      #EvanPoll #poll

      BuckRogers1965B This user is from outside of this forum
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      #212

      @evan

      Just visible to Alice unless she accepts the post. And she controls the visibility on her posts.

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      • salguod, man  🍂🍁 lazysupperL salguod, man 🍂🍁 lazysupper

        @dahukanna
        Oh... I need to change my answer. 😅
        Other: the dark blue-grey.
        @evan

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        #213

        @lazysupper @dahukanna so, in a long conversation, the number of people who can see the responses gets smaller and smaller over time?

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        • BuckRogers1965B BuckRogers1965

          @evan

          Just visible to Alice unless she accepts the post. And she controls the visibility on her posts.

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          wrote last edited by
          #214

          @BuckRogers1965 have you tried the ActivityPub plugin for WordPress? This is how it works; absolutely great stuff.

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          • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

            @lazysupper @dahukanna so, in a long conversation, the number of people who can see the responses gets smaller and smaller over time?

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            #215

            @evan
            Yes. I initially thought that's a problem. But it respects the privacy wishes of the respondents. But ideally most of the conversation will occur within the overlap.

            If Dave knows Alice and Bob but hates Chad, he shouldn't be excluded from the conversation just because Chad's a jerk. And he shouldn't need to reveal his reponses to Chad, just because Alice and Bob tolerate Chad.

            @dahukanna

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            • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

              If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

              #EvanPoll #poll

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              wrote last edited by
              #216
              @evan ToAlice, but visible to followers of both.
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              • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                #EvanPoll #poll

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                #217

                @evan Carol and Ted clearly need to be looped in

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                • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                  @maj Dawn's and my answer would be all of Alice's followers. I don't like the intersection answer, because it gets smaller and smaller over time. I think Alice's intent is to have her friends and family have a conversation, like it works on Instagram and Facebook.

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                  #218

                  @evan @maj But Bob may want to reply something that he doesn't want to divulge to all of Alice's followers (he likely doesn't know them all) so he may want to explicitly shrink the set to the intersection

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                  • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                    @jmcclure you're forgiven!

                    The poll is not mandatory, so please feel free to spend your one wild and precious life doing something different.

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                    #219

                    @evan

                    Huh?

                    I'm sorry I encroached on your poll without your invitation. I saw it, it looked interesting, so I submitted my vote and explained my "other" as requested.

                    If you didn't want to hear people's thoughts, don't ask for them.

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                    • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                      If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                      #EvanPoll #poll

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                      #220

                      @evan You asked "should", not "does", so my answer is "only people who follow *both* Alice and Bob", that is, the intersection of both sets of followers. (Your 3rd option, to me, reads like "people who follow *either*", that is, the union.)

                      Whether Alice-only follower Carol (resp. Bob-only follower Dave) should gain access to Bob's reply by following Bob (resp. Alice) after Bob's reply is unclear to me.

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                      • Evan ProdromouE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #221

                        @TomAoki @maj third item is the union.

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                        • Pau AmmaP Pau Amma

                          @evan You asked "should", not "does", so my answer is "only people who follow *both* Alice and Bob", that is, the intersection of both sets of followers. (Your 3rd option, to me, reads like "people who follow *either*", that is, the union.)

                          Whether Alice-only follower Carol (resp. Bob-only follower Dave) should gain access to Bob's reply by following Bob (resp. Alice) after Bob's reply is unclear to me.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #222

                          @pauamma so, the audience for replies gets smaller and smaller as the conversation grows?

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                          • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                            If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                            #EvanPoll #poll

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                            #223

                            @evan

                            Intersection of Alice and Bob's followers.

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                            • bjb :devuannew: :emacs:B bjb :devuannew: :emacs:

                              @evan

                              Intersection of Alice and Bob's followers.

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                              #224

                              @bjb so a smaller and smaller audience as the conversation goes on? Eventually too small to keep the conversation up?

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                              • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                                @bjb so a smaller and smaller audience as the conversation goes on? Eventually too small to keep the conversation up?

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                                #225

                                @evan

                                Yep. If there are people that Bob's not interested in, Bob should not have to deal with them.

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                                • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                                  If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                                  #EvanPoll #poll

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                                  #226

                                  @evan What about Ted and Carol's followers?

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                                  • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                                    If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                                    #EvanPoll #poll

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #227

                                    @evan
                                    Please help me, my friend, I desperately need you 🙏

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                                    • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                                      @pauamma so, the audience for replies gets smaller and smaller as the conversation grows?

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                                      #228

                                      @evan Good question. I'd have to think about it more, but my hot take is "it depends a lot on context". (Consider for instance that Bob may be Alice's stalkery ex.)

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                                      • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                                        If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                                        #EvanPoll #poll

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                                        #229

                                        Hey, all. So, I appreciate the responses. I'll break down the options here.

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                                        • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                                          Hey, all. So, I appreciate the responses. I'll break down the options here.

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                                          #230

                                          "Alice's followers" is the way most social networks work with private X, Facebook, Instagram. It lets Alice ask questions or share private info with people she trusts and cares about, and lets them discuss amongst themselves. It is really the best way to use social networks.

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