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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?

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  • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

    Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?

    #AskFedi

    Jennifer C J RadtkeR This user is from outside of this forum
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    Jennifer C J Radtke
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    #77

    @afewbugs thank you for posting this. It never even occurred to me that it might not support recurring tasks, since nextcloud in general seems to have the basics covered. I've been adding new one off tasks there as a precursor to moving everything there. Guess I won't be doing that 😟 @RadtkeJCJ

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    • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

      @mkj @dashdsrdash @afewbugs and it sounds like since the calendar app already handles this, maybe adding it to the task app would mean "just" sharing the code?

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      mkj
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      #78

      @mdione Even better (and I was unaware of this), apparently the backend already supports the necessary functionality https://help.nextcloud.com/t/repeating-tasks/225106/18 so really *all* that would be needed is some form of user interface support.

      Which makes it even weirder that this hasn't been implemented despite it being a highly requested feature for *years*.

      Come on @nextcloud, what's the hold-up!? I'd happily throw some money into the pot too if we can get this feature.

      @dashdsrdash @afewbugs

      #Nextcloud

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      • cratermoonC cratermoon

        @afewbugs Goodness, here's an issue from 2018 that *still open* https://github.com/nextcloud/deck/issues/480

        Rob WilliamsonE This user is from outside of this forum
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        Rob Williamson
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        #79

        @cratermoon @afewbugs

        God that's depressing. I have half finished projects like that, but I also need recurring reminders to drink water, so I am not allowed even temporary use of the typical label.

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        • Rob WilliamsonE Rob Williamson

          @cratermoon @afewbugs

          God that's depressing. I have half finished projects like that, but I also need recurring reminders to drink water, so I am not allowed even temporary use of the typical label.

          AprazethA This user is from outside of this forum
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          Aprazeth
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          #80

          @eswag @cratermoon @afewbugs

          Huh... I wonder if they support bounties or something similar?

          As in, an user puts up (monetary) bounty to get this fixed/added - and anyone can pick it up and get it done?

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          • AprazethA Aprazeth

            @eswag @cratermoon @afewbugs

            Huh... I wonder if they support bounties or something similar?

            As in, an user puts up (monetary) bounty to get this fixed/added - and anyone can pick it up and get it done?

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            Rob Williamson
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            #81

            @Aprazeth @cratermoon @afewbugs

            That might work for a big project like NC. For me, as soon I found https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity I mentally tagged the problem as solved, and haven't been able to summon any energy to replicate the solution over at NC.

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            • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

              Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now

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              Tomi the Slav and 1024 others
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              #82

              @afewbugs I've just read a very similar article, but from 1910. Very sad that we didn't progress much (I mean, men).

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              • Rob WilliamsonE Rob Williamson

                @Aprazeth @cratermoon @afewbugs

                That might work for a big project like NC. For me, as soon I found https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity I mentally tagged the problem as solved, and haven't been able to summon any energy to replicate the solution over at NC.

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                Aprazeth
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                #83

                @eswag @cratermoon @afewbugs

                Thank you, I quickly perused it, and that looks quite nice. Added it to the backlog to check later πŸ™‚

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                • Emily_SE Emily_S

                  @afewbugs looks at the local repair cafe and who runs the front desk and who runs the tea counter... Yep checks out

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                  Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK
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                  #84

                  @emily_s @afewbugs

                  Also this recurring task/meeting/event functionality is *already* standard in Outlook/MS365 for some time.

                  Its been an open issue since *2017*, apparently 2 weeks ago there is some pull request to add the function still awaiting merging (I don't know how long this process takes before it ends up in the main software, but someone was testing it as recently as 2 days ago)

                  https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34

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                  • Fish Id WardrobeF Fish Id Wardrobe

                    @afewbugs i think to a certain extent it's just *easier* to make a task manager that only handles one-off tasks. a lot easier.

                    which is to say, there may (only may) be no misogeny here, just a complete lack of ability to actually *define* the problem before they try to solve it…

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                    2xfo
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                    @fishidwardrobe @afewbugs
                    The misogyny is structural. It's systemic. And the people building the structure should look at what it does

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                    • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

                      Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?

                      #AskFedi

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                      Florian
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                      #86

                      @afewbugs i can't find anything on the web version right now but i heavily use recurring tasks to keep track of my weekly homework deadlines and use my nextcloud server and the tasks.org android app for that.

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                      • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

                        @quixoticgeek I mean from my perspective they are πŸ˜‚

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                        Pepijn
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                        #87

                        @afewbugs Non-woman here. I also agree.

                        @quixoticgeek

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                        • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

                          Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too

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                          Chrissy
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                          @afewbugs Yes to all of this!

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                          • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKV Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

                            @emily_s @afewbugs

                            Also this recurring task/meeting/event functionality is *already* standard in Outlook/MS365 for some time.

                            Its been an open issue since *2017*, apparently 2 weeks ago there is some pull request to add the function still awaiting merging (I don't know how long this process takes before it ends up in the main software, but someone was testing it as recently as 2 days ago)

                            https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34

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                            sb arms & legs
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                            @vfrmedia @emily_s @afewbugs
                            Just months ago someone seemingly put up a $500 bounty to move it along.

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                            • FlorianF Florian

                              @afewbugs i can't find anything on the web version right now but i heavily use recurring tasks to keep track of my weekly homework deadlines and use my nextcloud server and the tasks.org android app for that.

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                              @florian @afewbugs I do this as well for my household tasks, literally bins, sheets, MOT, dishwasher deep clean. It's all repeating tasks.
                              I use nextcloud only for the sync and do all my adding and ticking off via tasks.org. tasks.org allows repeating tasks and you can even choose from which date to repeat, I love that feature.
                              Nextcloud has actually a second bug, where if you tick off recurring tasks in the online interface, it ticks them of forever.

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                              • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

                                Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.

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                                @afewbugs your thread is reminding me strongly of β€œwhat’s on her mind” by Allison Daminger. Great book
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                                • John SchragJ John Schrag

                                  @afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)

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                                  @jvschrag @CiaraNi @afewbugs that's why the it-crowd is famous

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                                  • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

                                    So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes

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                                    NilaJones
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                                    @afewbugs

                                    In my local anarchist group, the men and the youngest women, fight ice. The women old enough to have kids organize the emotional support group, the conflict resolution group...

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                                    • ljΒ·rkL ljΒ·rk

                                      @afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.

                                      However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.

                                      Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.

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                                      @ljrk @afewbugs putting maintenance tasks in their own calendar, that can thus be hidden could be one way.

                                      regarding task-management in nextcloud in general: i only ever used the "deck"-app as a kanban board. as "tasks", "cards", and "events" are all the same type of caldav-object, they can be dispayed in all 3 apps, but with the deck-app you could e.g. have a columns for daily, weekly, and monthly tasks, and pull a task down to the bottom, so the longest undone task is always at the top.

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                                      • malteM malte

                                        @ljrk @afewbugs putting maintenance tasks in their own calendar, that can thus be hidden could be one way.

                                        regarding task-management in nextcloud in general: i only ever used the "deck"-app as a kanban board. as "tasks", "cards", and "events" are all the same type of caldav-object, they can be dispayed in all 3 apps, but with the deck-app you could e.g. have a columns for daily, weekly, and monthly tasks, and pull a task down to the bottom, so the longest undone task is always at the top.

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                                        @ljrk @afewbugs (and in case my posts reads as defensive of nextcloud: it isn't, as the dynamics that @afewbugs is speculating about are pretty aparent during their events πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ)

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                                        • Jules she/herA Jules she/her

                                          Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now

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                                          @afewbugs For the record I would be more than happy to see the matriarchy take over. *

                                          *Hoping when that time comes this token of support excuses me from extra dishwashing duties.

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