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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

    NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
    NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
    Nazo
    wrote last edited by
    #44

    @jdelacueva @EUCommission Does this actually require explicitly Google's own authenticator?

    There are a number of two-factor authenticators that should be completely compatible. (My preferred option being Aegis, but there are others.)

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
      Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
      Rue Mohr
      wrote last edited by
      #45

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission

      software hacking gonna be a major thing!!! and I dont think its all going to be client side!

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
        SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
        SebasFC
        wrote last edited by
        #46

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission hi @pallenberg könntest du dir das Mal angucken?

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          C This user is from outside of this forum
          C This user is from outside of this forum
          Steffen Eichel
          wrote last edited by
          #47

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission At least one EU Agency uses Microsoft services (even for user management and login/security issues) and you have to use either SMS or MS for 2FA, no open standards.

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
            pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
            pino
            wrote last edited by
            #48

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission What else did you expect from them?

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
              Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
              Fish Id Wardrobe
              wrote last edited by
              #49

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission if the 2FA requires one particular app to use, that's suspicious, too. there are plenty of apps that will work with 2FA.

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                Matv1
                wrote last edited by
                #50

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google 😄

                One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  John Faithfull 🌍🇪🇺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🧡✊🏻✊🏿F This user is from outside of this forum
                  John Faithfull 🌍🇪🇺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🧡✊🏻✊🏿F This user is from outside of this forum
                  John Faithfull 🌍🇪🇺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🧡✊🏻✊🏿
                  wrote last edited by
                  #51

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission the right to exist is only available to Google and Apple customers. 😭🤮🤬

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Alex Afouxenidis
                    wrote last edited by
                    #52

                    @jdelacueva Absolutely right. @EUCommission

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                    • Matv1M Matv1

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                      What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                      Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google 😄

                      One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

                      https://purl.org/rzr#R This user is from outside of this forum
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                      https://purl.org/rzr#
                      wrote last edited by
                      #53

                      https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

                      Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

                      Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

                      I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

                      Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

                      Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

                      Inputs welcome anyway

                      @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jay
                        wrote last edited by
                        #54

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                        Australian here. Don't even know at what layer my New South Wales State Government app isn't playing nice with GrapheneOS... but it doesn't bloody work mate.
                        I share your anger.

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                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          Herman  🇪🇺🇺🇦🇾🇪🍋H This user is from outside of this forum
                          Herman  🇪🇺🇺🇦🇾🇪🍋H This user is from outside of this forum
                          Herman 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇾🇪🍋
                          wrote last edited by
                          #55

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission 🤪🔨

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                          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                            katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                            katzenberger
                            wrote last edited by
                            #56

                            @jdelacueva

                            Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm currently able to add a passkey as a second factor, under "Manage my Trusted Platforms, Security Keys and Passkeys".

                            That should allow you to use e.g. KeePassDX on Android.

                            @EUCommission

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                            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              to⟁st⟁lT This user is from outside of this forum
                              to⟁st⟁lT This user is from outside of this forum
                              to⟁st⟁l
                              wrote last edited by
                              #57

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission EU should fix this… & their date format to 2026-02-25 like the ISO 8601 standard.

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                              • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

                                @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

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                                Wolf90000
                                wrote last edited by
                                #58

                                @greatlaketrout The EU is in bed with big tech despite them claiming otherwise (You probably know but this is for the people that don't)

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                                • ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G ĞÖKÜ👻👻™

                                  @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                                  Sco :progress: :flag_mm:
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #59

                                  @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                  I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                                  From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

                                    schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    schrotthaufen
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #60

                                    @EUCommission This is not how to do digital sovereignity. At all. Every mandated and/or taxpayer funded software must run on de-googled Android (LineageOS, GrapheneOS) or postmarketOS if it’s a mobile app, and Linux if it’s a desktop app. (That’s in addition to “regular” Android, iOS, Windows, and macOS.)

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                                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

                                      Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Miah Johnson
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #61

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission getting to the point where you need a dedicated Google device for things like this and then your daily use mobile device. Keep the spyware device in a drawer at home..

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                                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        Dr0idA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Dr0idA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Dr0id
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #62

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you don’t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. ⏬

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                                        • Dr0idA Dr0id

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you don’t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. ⏬

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                                          Dr0id
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #63

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Considering the trend to impose age verification to access social media with the "Fake News" scum and the control of "hate speech" and the possible age verification imposition to use VPN, it makes sense that you are forced to pass the play integrity in more and more official applications in EU agencies and the countries that make it up. ⏬

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